On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Douglas Otis wrote:
This message is posted on behalf of Dave Rand.
While Dave often has a unique perspective, I'm slightly concerned
that anyone would interact with the ASRG in a write-only manner.
If Doug represents Trend Micro policy, he can present and discuss
it here himself. If this is, instead, a private observation from Dave,
be better if Dave were to present it as a private observation himself,
rather than as a statement presented by an employee.
The RBL(tm) is a *fully manual* process. No automation. It is the
"list of last resort". It is used to stop spam coming from
*persistant* spam sources - ones that have been brought to the
attention of the service providers, and that the service provider has
That seems to clash with past statements of the MAPS RBL team.
IIRC, the RBL was intended to punish those who, in the sole discretion
of the RBL staff, "support spam" in some vague, abstract way. It was
not intended solely to actually block or stop spam. Listings were
and intended to cause business damage, not to actually block spam,
and there was no consistent policy or oversight.
Has that policy changed since the Trend buy-out? If so, there are
probably some useful lessons to learn from why those policies have
changed, and the benefits of doing so. Dave?
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