On November 29, 2008 at 17:37 meta(_at_)pobox(_dot_)com (mathew) wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 13:49, John Levine <johnl(_at_)taugh(_dot_)com>
There are 650 recipients on this mailing list. Are you willing to pay
$32.50 for each message you send to it? If not, do you think someone
else should pay? Who should it be?
I assume that people who wanted to receive mail from non-commercial mailing
lists like this one would need to agree to receive it without payment.
For the record I don't think it should ever be up to the end-recipient
to decide whether or not the sender pays.
The sender should pay for trying to deliver, just like postal mail.
As to "$32.50 for each message" I don't see any reason on earth or in
heaven as to why any of this would lead to such an untenable
situation. It's another straw man.
As I've said before I'd imagine something more like IETF as a
non-profit pays, say, $500/year which allows them to send 1M
non-commercial messages a month or whatever some investigation into
such needs deems reasonable (I don't know off-hand how many msgs IETF
But to continue the example current mega-spammmers send around a
billion messages a day each, ~30B/month. If they had to pay the same
rate as above, $500/year per 1M msgs/month, that'd be, lessee, they
send 30B/mo, so that's 30,000 x IETF, 30,000 x $500/year, $15 million
That's not to say there might not be a discount at such lofty levels
but let's get real here. What spammer could even pay $1M/year let
alone $15M/year. Yet that might only incur $500/year for IETF, a mere
bagatelle, let's pass the hat.
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