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Re: [ietf-dkim] What third-party ISP problem?

2006-08-03 09:34:07
Mark Delany wrote:

NS delegation works for exactly one provider. This is probably just
fine for a pretty reasonable swath of small business, but it really
doesn't addresss the whole spectrum. For example, if I outsource my
mail to isp.com, I'm also pretty likely to outsource my email campaigns
to advertisomatic.com too.

Right. I wasn't really trying to address the whole spectrum. The
suggestion is that the common case is not as hard as it seems some are
saying. More importantly, the common case need not involve third-party
signatures.
But do we really know if the common case really works for the common solution (ns) that we're envisioning? You sign for a lot of domains, but do you really know what other mailing services that your customers are using? If many/most are also using outsourced third parties as well as your regular mail service, then that mail will not have valid signatures until you provide an interface to publish their selectors.

like there would be some advantage to do the indirection at the protocol
layer (eg, SSP) rather than at the DNS layer (eg NS).

Sure, in this scenario you need a multi-indirection capability,
regardless of the technology you use. But is this saying anything more
than complex requirements require complex deployments?

The more general question I guess is how much do we want to get into
defining management mechanisms? Largely I'd think such things don't
require standardization and might benefit from a competitive
landscape.
I certainly don't want to get into that definition, but the question is whether
the deployment model is even plausible. Your opening up this management
interface for their _domainkey space strikes me as a pretty esoteric,
high cost/low gain kind of proposition from the service provider's standpoint. Wouldn't it be better if there were a way for you to shift that burden back onto
your customers reasonably?

      Mike

Mark.
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