On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:07:06 -0000, Hector Santos <hsantos(_at_)santronics(_dot_)com>
Charles Lindsey wrote:
Because news and email regularly get gatewayed into each other.
But this suggest that you have a DKIM-NNTP based protocol...
It suggests no such thing. Read what I wrote and respond to that, and not
to some strawman of your own invention.
You need to address the base system first which is 1 to 1 EMAIL concept
before we even have a chance to make it work in a 1 to MANY or MANY to
Unfortunately, the world is already way beyond 1 to 1 EMAIL. If you
introduce DKIM without having previously considered the consequences for
all existing practices, then perfectly legitimate things which have always
worked will start to fail. And it is DKIM which will get the blame
Suppose foo.example announces that it "signs everything" (presumably we
intend that to mean all emails). So if joe(_at_)foo(_dot_)example sends an
unsigned email, it is sure to be treated with "suspicion".
But what if joe(_at_)foo(_dot_)example posts an article to some newsgroup? DKIM
in Usenet might be found to be a good idea someday, but it is not
likely to be in our drafts and is not in our charter.
Right, so why are fussing around with this can of worms? If the user
with an exclusive domain is going outside a domain policy to post mail
in a newsgroup,
Hold on! Read what I said. I said nothing about posting mail in a
newsgroup. I spoke about posting news in a newsgroup, and DKIM is not
involved in that because, as you correctly said, DKIM does not apply to
The problem does not arise until someone far away gates that news article
back into email, at which point its lack of a DKIM signature suddenly gets
noticed. So we need to think abut this and establish the correct
procedures to be followed (maybe some signature by the gatewayer, or maybe
some action by the mailing list admin that it was gatewayed to).
And maybe (USEFOR hat on here) gateways from news to email ought
> to be adding suitable Resent-* headers.
IMV, we should stop trying to mix EMAIL vs NEWS - two different things.
"We" (TINW) are not in a position to stop it. It already happens.
Gatewaying between newsgroups and mailing lists is an already established
feature of Usenet. You (TINY) have to live with that.
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