On Dec 7, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Friday 07 December 2007 12:00, John Levine wrote:
If you believe that any random MTA has an equal right to emit mail
claiming to be from my domain, then I think there's little left to
Twisting other people's arguments to make them sound absurd is not
For example, since you want to forbid all third parties from sending
mail, please explain why you want to forbid newspaper mail-to-a-
services. Why are you opposed to press freedom?
Nothing says they have to use my domain name to do it. It's
orthogonal to the point.
PS: The non-absurd version of this is, where did we conclude that the
DNS operator's rights to a domain name always trump every other
I disagree. What I stated is the logical conclusion from the
Either domain owners have the right to control the use of their
in email or they don't.
If they do, then Mike's point stands.
If they don't, then phishing is inherently OK. There really is no
Fallacy of the excluded middle.
Just because it's OK for people to use some variant on a webmail
interface to send mail "from" their email address does not make it
OK to criminally steal passwords or credit card details.
We're getting a reasonable survey of logical fallacies
today. Entertaining, but not terribly useful, and there's at least a
couple of dozen more to collect to get the full set.
Could we move on to some more reasonable lines of argument?
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