The IETF+Censored mailing list
At times, the IETF list is subject to debates that have little to do
with the purposes for which the IETF list was created. Some people
would appreciate a "quieter" forum for the relevant debates that take
place, but the IETF's policy of openness has so far prevented the IETF
from imposing any censorship policy on the IETF(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org list.
To give people an alternative, there is a list called
This list is a sublist (that is, it gets the same messages as) the
open IETF discussion list. However, this list will not forward all
messages; in particular, the filters have been set so that persons and
discussions that are, in the view of Harald Alvestrand, irrelevant to
the IETF list are not forwarded.
Because this filter is automated, the criteria include:
* Well known troublemakers
* Well known crosspostings
* Subjects that have led to recent non-conclusive exchanges
* Some ways to say "unsubscribe"
To join the list, send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a
message to ietf+censored-request(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no (the URL here is
2368 mailto URL that does the Right Thing).
To unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" in the BODY of a
message to ietf+censored-request(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no(_dot_) Do not send
list - your message will be filtered!
(members of the main IETF list itself must follow instructions for
that list, of course. You are only a member of ietf+censored if there
is a comment on the bottom of your IETF list mail saying that the
message has been sent through the ietf+censored list.)
For fun, there is a special list for the rejected messages:
ietf+censored-rejects(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no - subscribe in the same
by mail to ietf+censored-rejects-request(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no
By public request, the current set of filters are listed at
Some statistics on postings, which may be useful in getting a
perspective on the effects of the filter, are at
posting-counts.html (started Oct 14, 1998).
This page is http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf+censored.html, and is
posted monthly in text form to ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Harald Tveit Alvestrand < Harald(_at_)Alvestrand(_dot_)no>