On 10/26/01 at 4:43 PM +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
There's no reason everyone else should have to go install/fiddle
mail filters just so you can continue to receive junk mail via a
list where it doesn't belong.
That depends on how you define junk mail. If everyone does not
share the same definition, there is a problem.
Anthony, you have consistently avoiding answering the one real issue:
Jim was excluded, according to Harald, because his posts are
off-topic for the discussions of this list. Many of his posts are
about political topics which are out-of-scope of the charter of this
mailing list (it is supposed to be about "engineering" or internal
process issues of the IETF), and the rest of his posts are about a
"technology" which the IETF has already come to a consensus that they
have rejected. He has been reminded multiple times that his posts are
out-of-scope for the list and yet he refuses to stop making those
kinds of posts. (There are, of course, other lists for which his
posts are perfectly reasonable. I would feel that the same thing
should be done to a person who decided to constantly posting cake
recipes to the IETF list and those posts caused the same kind of
disruption that Jim's do.)
So, the question for you to answer is, "Are Jim's posts within the
charter of the IETF general mailing list (even viewing them in the
most favorable light)?"
If you can explain to all of us how his posts are reasonably within
the scope of discussion here, you might get a great deal of support
for reconsideration of his exclusion. However, currently consensus of
this list seems to be that his posts are wildly off-topic (if not
simply flame-bait) and are interfering with the work of this list. I
think it is therefore incumbent upon you or others who want his
privileges reinstated to explain why his postings are in any way
within the scope of this mailing list.
Pete Resnick <mailto:presnick(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com>