At 06:07 PM 8/20/2003 -0700, Marshall Rose wrote:
> I think the XCON folks were trying to be inclusive in their charter
> development but frankly I don't think its necessary. The IETF now has
> SIP related WG's operating well and producing good work and the scope of
> the XCON proposal IMHO should be directed at SIP specifically. Its a
> complex issue, there is a real problem statement and a focused WG could
> tackle the problem head on and deliver results. This was the direction we
> took with SIPPING for the specific IM problem and its what we need to do
> with SIP Conferencing.
richard - unfortunately, this isn't what the proposed charter says or
I know .. we are in total agreement the charter needs to be rewritten and
more specific. Though again though I have no direct knowledge of the
thinking of the charter authors I do belive they felt the obligation to be
"inclusive" of other protocols. OK maybe they were trying to be politically
correct..I don't know.
i'll repeat what i've said twice before, but i'll use different words:
if the sip folks want to have a working group to work on
sip-specific conferencing, fine. we can judge the charter on its
merits in the context of sip.
ack and I agree that is the best approach.
the xmpp folks have a workable, deployed solution in the
conferencing space. if they decide to take this work to the ietf,
then that should also be accorded the same courtesy in being judged
on its merits in the context of xmpp.
IMHO yes however I would say .. if the XMPP community can contribute a
architectural model that might be useful to SIP than I hope ..hope they
would be willing to share such valuable insights.
so, as much as i enjoy these little skirmishes
I know you do :-) and after all its the dog days of August and we all need
a little entertainment from time to time. I've noticed we have'nt had a ID
and ASCII debate in a while..
, i repeat my call for
tailor the proposed charter so that it limits itself to sip-specific
conference, and no one outside of the sip community will much care...
That very reasonable.
My very best wishes ..
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