Cc: Keith Moore <moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu>, ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
From: Keith Moore <moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu>
To: Vernon Schryver <vjs(_at_)calcite(_dot_)rhyolite(_dot_)com>
If that is an issue, it ought to be raised by those who are being
misled, the targets of mail, instead of senders and other third
it IS being raised by them, for those who are actually able to figure
out what's going on. of course, when the recipient doesn't receive
mail he's expecting, he has no idea where to look - so he tends to
blame the sender.
Keith Moore is not complaining about mail he has not received because
of the dasterdly misinformation from the RBL. He is either a third
party sender of reject mail that he is certain was wanted by its
despite being rejected or he is a fourth party presuming to speak for
the first parties (spam targets) against the second parties (blacklist
You are a barefaced liar.
How so in that assertion of mine? Unless I missed something that seems
unlikely, Keith Moore is not complaining about mail he has failed to
receive. He surely would not have been misled by blacklist operators
into configuring his SMTP servers to use one of their evil nasty
cheating lying dishonest fraudulent unhealthy fattening cancer-causing
end-to-end principle breaking RBLs. The remaining possibilities are
that he writing is on behalf of himself as a sender of rejected mail
or he is a fourth party presuming to speak for the people actually
involved, senders, receivers, and blacklist operators.
I admit that I would not be surprised if his opinion of anti-spam
blacklists was informed long ago when some of his more or less innocent
mail was rejected with a reference to MAPS's RBL. I've no evidence
of that except his use of archaic jargon and what his "courtesy copies"
and statements about how I've configured my SMTP server show of his
views of those who would be happier with fewer of his words.
Concerning how I've configured my SMTP server--Juging from the headers
of the IETF list messages, today it has rejected 2 copies of "and the
horse you rode in on" and one copy of "You are a barefaced liar." That
seems like a Good Thing(tm), but perhaps not enough.
Vernon Schryver vjs(_at_)rhyolite(_dot_)com