"Eric" == Eric S Raymond <esr(_at_)thyrsus(_dot_)com> writes:
Eric> You've had two direct warnings about this -- the ASF and
Eric> Debian open letters. They interpreted IETF's passivity on
Eric> the Sender-ID patent issue as damage and routed around it.
Eric> If the IETF doesn't get its act together, that *will* happen
Eric> again. The open-source community and its allies will have
Eric> no choice but to increasingly route around IETF, and IETF
Eric> will become increasingly irrelevant.
I'm a bit confused here. As I understand things, Debian and ASF
provided input to an IETF consensus call. They asked us not to
approve a standard that depended on certain IPR.
Based on that input and other input received by the working group, the
chairs decided that they did not have consensus to advance a standard
based on this IPR. I.E. The IETF did exactly what Debian and ASF
asked us to do.
That seems like a reasonable outcome under our process. It also seems
directly consistent with what Debian and ASF asked the IETF to do.
Could you help me understand your concern?
--Sam
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