Since Nick Staff's response is edging towards the subject of proper
behaviour towards irritating people on the IETF list, I thought it might be
worthy of response.... I found no reason to respond to earlier messages in
I learned long ago some rules for reasonable behaviour on mailing lists.
Some of those include:
1 - Argue rationally. Use arguments related to what's being discussed.
Support those arguments with facts. When the facts don't support your
argument, shut up. RFC 3184.
2 - When you think that other people behave unreasonably, ignore their
unreasonable behaviour unless your role requires you to respond to it
("don't feed the troll"). Alternatively, complain off-list. RFC 3005.
3 - When other people respond angrily to the unreasonable behaviour, you
may sometimes advise them that following rule 2 may be a better option.
I've chosen to apply my strongest version of rule 2 to mr. Anderson - I
won't see his messages unless I look for them. The reason being that I do
not wish to expend my resources in cooling down to the point where I'd only
make reasonable responses.
I think that's a good thing for people to do when they discover that they
have the same kind of reaction to mr. Anderson's posts as I far too often
have. So in the spirit of rule 3, I have shared the information on what I'm
Believe me, if I wished to attack mr. Anderson, there would be no doubt
whatsoever that I wished to attack mr. Anderson. But I don't.
Or, summarizing my advice in a very short sentence:
Killfiles are good for you.
--On tirsdag, juni 28, 2005 00:50:30 -0700 Nicholas Staff
You could also reasonably rule it obnoxious, childish, and pubescent.
Moreover since according to your earlier post you don't think fact is an
acceptable defense of a personal attack your response is at best a curious
double standard. Unless of course your comment about it being fact was
just some snyde payback from an earlier discussion.
Clearly Harald included himself in the conversation for the sole purpose
of being a jerk and his success in that area was disruptive and
deconstructive at least for me.
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