- MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are so
stringent as to make it impossible or even extremely difficult for
some participant to attend.
- MUST NOT be held in a country with restrictions on freedom of
expression, especially if these extend to the blocking of web sites
or any other censuring of personal communications.
- MUST NOT be held in a country were local participants would be
under pressure to support national technical policies on threat of
imprisonment or other punitive actions, for their opinions.
- MUST NOT be held in a country were local participants would need
government approval to attend.
The "restrictions on freedom of expression" is a little more tricky and one
could argue that the IETF should not be in the business of trying to change
policy at that level. China comes to mind as a place we could not go by this
rule, but a lot of people seem to belive that "constructive engagement" is
more successful than boycott.
Please allow me speak something personally,
I come from Beijing China, continuously attended IETF meeting six times.
hosted Chinese participants parties each time. There are more than 40 chinese
made a getting together in last IETF Paris Meeting right after Technical
Plenary on thursday.
This February, we hosted a workshop which is related to IETF MIP6,MIP4, NEMO
In Feb. 2006, we are currently planing to continue to host this workshop which
is related to
IETF more working groups. If you are interested in help to bridge between IETF
Please don't hesitate to contact with us.
Regarding to " Blocked sites, redirected dns, registration and arrest of
I already have to explain too many times with people who come from IETF to
What I asked is just one question " Do you have any problem to visit any
website or using VPN in China".
The answer what I heard is just "No", What I recommend is please come to China
and see what she
really is other than judgement based on other'other'other peoples talking.
I understand some people who come from freedom country would like to visit both
"Anti-China website and terrorist", then there will be not reachable, in that
what I can suggest is " Please be patient just only 1 week (IETF meeting time),
you return back to your freedom country, please continue to do Anti-China
acitivity as you like.
This weekend, Formula 1 will be held in Shanghai, China
Next next week, 3GPP2 meeting will be held in Beijing, China.
Others like 3GPP, and ITU, OMA, IEEE intermediate meeting were already held in
2008 Olmpic Game, Beijing, China
2010 World Expo, Shanghai, China
Then my question goes to "why IETF could not come to China?"
If IETF think that China is too poor and technology is pretty lag behind,
I agree and accept, but we chinese really expected that more help
could come from IETF to change ours life.
Shall we make a more "constructive engagement"
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