Cool Rob - how about we ask ALL of the other members of all of the other
WG's since these rules and processes effect them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Evans" <internetplumber(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
To: "todd glassey" <tglassey(_at_)earthlink(_dot_)net>
Cc: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>; "Noel Chiappa"
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Why cant the IETF embrace an open Election Process rather than
As one of the randoms (and speaking for nobody but myself)...
The facts remain - most IETF WG participants have no idea what is going
here - and that is not their fault - its the fault of the design of the
Personally I've no huge problem with the nomcom.
However, if you feel it needs to change, then the usual method would
be to write two drafts. The first a problem statement describing the
issues with the current system, and the second a proposal of how to
change it. That way there is something concrete to discuss.
I wrote a draft about Open and Fair and was shot down for it. What I am
saying is that anything that threatens the ruling class of the IETF is just
that a threat to the ruling class. It is that Class of specialists who
refuse to be accountable for their actions that need to be addressed.
If people have no idea what is going on, one of the reasons could be
because it is spread out over several dozen email messages rather than
a couple of focused documents.
Or 10 or so RFC's which even the Authors of cant ultimately say what is in
control at any given instant.
YES. In fact I ran a small survey and got a 97% YES response. 97%...
I guess this is relatively meaningless without a context into the
community from which the responses were received.
Actually it was done externally to this WG intentionally and it was stunning
to find out that no-one outside these key WG's has any idea as to what is
happening with the IETF or its processes.
All the best,
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