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RE: [16NG] Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-over-ipv6cs (IPv6 Over the IP Specific part of the Packet Convergence sublayer in 802.16 Networks) to Proposed Standard

2007-03-21 23:57:56

Hello all,

            My two cents. Please see inline.
Best wishes,
alice
-----Original Message-----
From: Basavaraj Patil [mailto:basavaraj(_dot_)patil(_at_)nokia(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:13 AM
To: ext Alexandru Petrescu
Cc: ipv6(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; IETF-Announce; 
16ng(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [16NG] Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-over-ipv6cs (IPv6
Over
the IP Specific part of the Packet Convergence sublayer in 802.16
Networks)
to Proposed Standard


Alex,


On 3/14/07 11:47 AM, "ext Alexandru Petrescu"
<alexandru(_dot_)petrescu(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
wrote:

Basavaraj Patil wrote:
Hello,

A slightly revised version of the I-D is now available at:

http://people.nokia.net/~patil/IDs/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-over-ipv6cs-09.txt

This revision incorporates changes based on some of the comments made
by
the
directorate. It will be submitted to the ID repository as soon as the
gates
are opened.

Raj, is there a plan to deal with the interoperability issue where the
AP tells the Station to auto-configure statelessly and the AR tells it
statefully?

[qinxia] 
My question is what is the situation when AP select different address
configuration with AR?  IMHO, it is up to deployment.

The AP may send REG-RSP telling the Station to use DHCP.

[qinxia]  address configuration is indicated over RA. This is enough.

The AR may send an RA telling the Station to use SLAAC.

The issue arises when we consider managed and unmanaged hosts as defined
by
802.16. Managed hosts are the ones that may use the secondary management
connection. Secondary management connection is optional and as we have
discussed in the past this is an option in the .16 specs that exists but
very likely unused. I can tell you that in the case of Mobile WiMAX the
secondary management connection is not used.

I agree that a BS and the AR should be synchronized in terms of what
method
is indicated to the MS for address configuration.

[qinxia]  sure, SMC may not be exist. However, RA may be transported over
regular connection. RA could be used to indicate the address configuration. 


There may be an interoperability issue, if the two indicators are
different.

Yes.


This issue can of course be considered as a network management issue,
where advice could be given to network deployers of AR and AP to
configure their networks correctly.

Correct. A deployment should be able to ensure that the indication to the
MS
in the REG-RSP and RA are synchronized. I can add some text in the I-D to
ensure that this issue is noted in the address configuration section.


And this is a time when both 802.16 is changing (Corrigendum 2 under
discussion but still allows AP to indicate to MN what autoconf method to
use) and the RA definition is changing (draft-2462bis indicates 'M' flag
may not be used, but an 'autonomous' flag instead).

What do you think?  Do I get this issue correctly?  Or is the issue
important, less important, etc.

This is a valid issue but I think it can be clarified in the I-D itself by
recognizing it and recommending that the indication by the BS and AR are
synced. We can also mention it to IEEE but that is about the scope of
things
that we can do.

-Raj


Thanks,

Alex


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