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Brian et al,
I remember Vint told me in the early days, he had to pay people to
develop a TCP/IP stack on various OSes. This is how partly he got
adoption and interoperability.
While it is not the role of IETF to do that, I feel part of the
solution is there. Pay people to implement protocols for the greater
good on various platforms, the market will do the rest after a
significant user base is built.
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 2007-12-24 07:32, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
Problem: We have a lot of specifications that work fine, but have
not seen deployment
Examples: Most security specifications, IPv6, etc. etc.
Cause: The economic case for deployment is not made. This is a
particular concern when the protocol deplends on the network
effect. Until the network is established the protocol has minimal
Proposed Solution: Deployment Cases
As engineers we are now used to considering use cases, that is
representative use scenarios that illustrate particular
intendeded uses. The output of use cases are requirements.
Deployment cases are similar except that we consider the economic
incentives for transition.
IMHO, whenever the IETF has tried to do anything like this, we've
failed. A good (er, bad) example was draft-ietf-iab-case-for-ipv6,
which had so many issues that it was allowed to curl up and die.
Basically, we aren't business-oriented people or economists, and we
don't tolerate marketing-style bending of the facts.
I'm pessimistic about trying this in the IETF, even for
technologies that are aimed at the greater good, where the economic
arguments are not about short term returns for individual
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