I can answer a few questions that will help.
AMS installed the default configuration of mailman and then
imported each mailing list's individual configuration file as
provided by NSS.
It should be the case now that all IETF hosted mailing lists are in
the domain "ietf.org". The mail server will be "mail.ietf.org".
However, there are some inconsistencies between lists. For
example, Mailman allows a list to set its domain. Lists have been
found to be in lists.ietf.org, optimus.ietf.org, megatron.ietf.org,
and a few others. Mailman allows other options that can be set on
a per list basis that may also create inconsistencies between lists.
All the names that have been found are recognized and accepted by
the mail server, but fixing the various list configurations will
take time. It is pretty low on the priority list right now because
email is working. There are other things that are not working and
they are taking priority.
You can help by notifying "ietf-action(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" when you find
inconsistencies. If you do this AMS can track them and they will
get fixed in time.
-- On Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:35 AM +0200 Yaakov Stein
<yaakov_s(_at_)rad(_dot_)com> wrote regarding transitioning email rules --
I assume that others have come across this problem as well,
but I haven't seen anything mentioned about it on this list or
the IETF sites.
I receive over 500 non-spam emails every day (peaks can reach
These include emails from about 15 IETF lists,
about 25 other standardization lists, some 20 lists on technical
multiple internal corporate lists, (and even a few emails sent
only to me).
The only way I can deal with this load and maintain my sanity
is by using a large set of sorting rules.
I have quite a few rules dealing with IETF emails that all worked
well until the transition.
Some of my rules look for [WG-NAME] in the subject line.
However, some WG lists (e.g. L2VPN) do not use this convention .
Also, I sometimes have trouble when I forward an email to someone
who then returns an urgent answer leaving the subject line
Some of my rules WERE based on the sender,
for example, mails from ietf-announce-request(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org(_dot_)
With the transition the sender changed to
I exchanged emails with ietf-action(_at_)amsl(_dot_)com and was told that
kind of change was here to stay. Being somewhat skeptical I
decided to change
the logic and to focus on the list to which it was sent, rather
than the sender.
I had avoided this in the past, since frequently people email
and only cc the list, making the logic more intricate.
These new rules work some of the time, but not always.
For example, in the past emails to the MPLS WG list
(that were from mpls-request(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org but now come from
were sent to mpls(_at_)lists(_dot_)ietf(_dot_)org . I modified my rule to flag
this list address.
But now the emails are being directed to mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org !
Would it be possible to post information that would help here ?
What is constant and can be relied upon ?
Would it be possible to set up guidelines for WGs to follow,
including those (e.g. NTP) who use non-IETF domains ?
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