I don't feel that strongly about being able to remove patent disclosures
which no longer have any value; if the concensus is to keep them in an
increasingly cluttered list of disclosures, so be it. The only situation
I was looking to avoid was the whining that would ensue when a patent
holder submitted a disclosure for a specific contribution into a
specific working group, the technology doesn't make it into the
standard, and then someone else later tries to take that same
technology, knowing (or not) that a disclosure was on file for it for
the original submission, puts it into an ID for another working group,
and then finds out the hard way that the original licensing commitment
doesn't apply. However, I guess knowing that there might be some
proprietary technology in the original contribution (and thus the latter
one) would still be useful information, even if the licensing commitment
was no longer valid.
I expect the result will be more specifics in each patent disclosure,
and the subsequent submission of amendments by patent holders
reiterating that a licensing commitment is no longer valid, with the
failure of the specific contribution to make it into the IETF standard
that was originally targeted.
Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:20 AM
To: Simon Josefsson
Cc: IETF Discussion
Subject: Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures?
I have to agree with a number of other folks. Patent
statements can not be removed. It is probably reasonable to
have a section for "apparently not currently relevant"
disclosures. But the disclosures, and the terms therein, are
still active. This is important for many reasons, including
confirming what was historically relied on, having available
information if a working group returns to an item, and other issues.
Adding annotations, and organizing information for simplicity
and clarity are fine. Removing information is not fine.
Joel M. Halpern
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