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Re: Friday experiment

2008-11-28 15:38:23

Here is a link to an English-language travel planner that you can use 
to check train times, prices and duration:

http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi?

Enter, for example, Tokyo as the starting point and Hiroshima as the
destination, in the next step set your departure time, type of fair
(the name for First Class is "Green seat"). I came down from Tokyo
to Hiroshima yesterday on the first Nozomi (fastest express) of the
day. It left Tokyo at 06:00 and arrived here at 09:47, which isn't
bad for 894.2km. 

We will be working with the Japan Travel Bureau (JTB) to allow you
to book a hotel room in Tokyo (even at Narita itself) if you need to
on your way in or out of the country. The main obstacle is that the 
Shinkansen stops running at midnight at the DESTINATION so to get to
Hiroshima from Tokyo, say, you'd have to leave Tokyo before 8pm. That 
should be doable for most flights into Narita, but as Joel says, 
flying into Kansai is much better, assuming the sagging economy does
not do away with flights to Kansai as well.

There will be much more info about this on a website that I am working 
on and also on the local IETF 76 website which is also under 
construction.

Ole

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

John C Klensin wrote:
Hiroshima is going to be at least as "interesting": while the
flights from Narita to the US seem to leave late afternoon, one
has to transit from Hiroshima to Narita, either by air (the only
departure I can find is at 0755) or train, again, killing most
of the day.  Flights from Narita to Amsterdam, Frankfurt, and
London (my small, not-random, sample) leave mid-day, with the
same connection issues, i.e., "meet Friday" means "depart
Saturday and arrive Saturday afternoon at best".

While I won't observe to much about the schedule in relation to this I
will say:

As a purely practical matter the Hikari Shinkansen on the Sanyo line
goes from Hiroshima to Osaka in about 90 minutes if I recall, Tokyo if
you want to go that far, is around 2.5 hours from Osaka with NRT being
about 40 minutes from Tokyo stations... however getting to Tokyo is not
the fastest way to leave or enter to country headed to hiroshima.

The Kansai airport KIX is directly accessible from the US as well as
well as many well connected  and some not so well connected European
cities and it's about 20-30 minutes from shin-Osaka.

Given that flights are frequently late but the highspeed rail system
almost never is. I wouldn't bother prepurchasing tickets or padding
interaries, rather I'd just show up and purchase tickets on the fastest
train going in the correct direction. hiroshima shin-osaka non-reserved
is around 4000 yen. by the time you link together the three or so mass
transit options required to get there it should be order of $60-70 each
way unless the dollar drops even further.


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