On 19 Nov, 2009, at 06:14, Dave Cridland wrote:
Since people thought I was merely being amusing, instead of also
intending to make a point, let me rephrase in a dry, dull, and
serious tone, so I'm no longer told it was "very amusing, but not
much help".
There exist a few protocols based around mDNS and DNS-SD, in
particular in combination, and the general high-level design of
both protocols is essentially sound. These are sometimes standards-
track specifications of the IETF - I seem to recall some of the SIP
related protocols are DNS-SD/mDNS based. In other SDOs, there are
also standards track specifications based around the combination,
such as the XSF's XEP-0174 - http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/
xep-0174.html - and these are also reliant on a stable, well-
specified, protocol. To my mind, this implies that both
specifications need to be standards track, if that status has any
meaning at all - and I firmly believe it should and does.
Thank you. I think you are right.
Unfortunately, the specification of both of them suffers in,
essentially, the same ways.
...
- A considerable amount of space is given over to Apple trademarks,
which I confess to finding deeply irritating. mDNS is not nearly so
bad as DNS-SD in this regard, but this still applies. I have no
problem with acknowledging the input of Apple here, but there's a
thin line between acknowledgement and outright product placement.
I would be happy to work with you in the next couple of weeks to de-
cruft the document and get a cleaned up draft submitted before
Christmas.
What you're seeing is the end result of a gradual accretion of text
over the course of eight years since draft-00 in 2001. It was
natural, especially in the early days, that many of the examples came
from Apple products. Here and now, in 2009, if this is to be
published as a Standards Track RFC, I don't have any problem with
removing many or even all mentions of Apple and Apple products.
FWIW, I see no need to go through an extensive BOF process, and -
again given the levels of deployment - I'd anticipate rapid
progress through the standards-track ought to be possible.
I agree.
Stuart Cheshire <cheshire(_at_)apple(_dot_)com>
* Wizard Without Portfolio, Apple Inc.
* Internet Architecture Board
* www.stuartcheshire.org
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