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Re: draft-jabley-sink-arpa vs foo.invalid

2010-01-11 11:14:03
   o INVALID is poorly characterised from a DNS perspective in
      [RFC2606]; that is, the specification that INVALID does not exist
      as a Top Level Domain (TLD) is imprecise given the various uses 
      of the term TLD in policy forums;

Hm. Then why doesn't this document supersede 2606's imprecise 
specification with a better one?

Agreed.  The current bits on the wire for .INVALID, i.e., none, match
any plausible improved specification, after all.

   o  the contents of the root zone are derived by interaction with many
      inter-related policy-making bodies, whereas the administrative 
      and technical processes relating to the ARPA zone are much more 
      clearly defined in an IETF context;

That can be put that more clearly: "The IETF doesn't have sufficient 
authority over the root zone to publish 2606 and ensure its continued 
accuracy." My answer to that is that if so, then most of 2606 is 
broken, and it's necessary to much fix more than just the paragraph 
that defines .invalid.

Here's some proposed language which I believe accurately describes the
current situation:

   o  RFC 2680 documents a binding agreement between the IETF and
      ICANN with regard to the operation of the IANA.  In particular,
      Section 4.3 requires ICANN's management of the root zone to
      comply with the IETF's "assignments of domain names for
      technical uses", such as those described in RFC 2606.  Some
      people believe that ICANN or its successor may unilaterally
      break this agreement, although there is no evidence to support
      or refute this hypothesis.

   o  the use of ARPA for purposes of operational infrastructure (and,
      by inference, the explicit non-use of a particular name in ARPA)
      is consistent with the purpose of that zone, as described in
      [RFC3172].

   o  Some people believe that ICANN is less likely to mess with .ARPA
      than with .INVALID, although there is no evidence to support or
      refute this hypothesis.

Also, based on recent mail here:

   o  DNS caches and proxies have in a few cases been observed to
      replace nonexistent names with synthesized records, typically
      the A record of a web server, in violation of standards and best
      practices.  Some people believe that noexistent names in .ARPA
      are less likely to be replaced than names in .INVALID, although
      there is no evidence to support or refute this hypothesis.

R's,
John
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