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Re: IESG Statement on NomCom Eligibility and Day Passes

2010-05-24 13:59:32
At 10:53 24-05-10, IESG Secretary wrote:
RFC 3777 requires that voting members of the nominating committee
(NomCom) be selected from volunteers that have attended at least three
of the last five IETF meetings. The IAOC is conducting a day pass
experiment, making it necessary to clarify the NomCom eligibility rules
to address IETF participants that make use of a day pass. An update to
RFC 3777 will be needed to address this situation if at the end of the
experiment the IAOC decides to make day passes a regular meeting
registration alternative. This statement provides guidance until an
update to RFC 3777 is proposed, reviewed, and approved.

According to Section 7.2 of RFC 3710:

  "The IESG is responsible for making sure the IETF process is
   functional in all aspects.  This includes taking responsibility for
   initiating consideration of updates to the process when required, as
   well as addressing obvious miscarriages of process, even when they do
   not fall into the categories described above."

That can be used as to explain that the IESG has the authority.

Section 5 of RFC 3777 mentions that:

  "All rules and special circumstances not otherwise specified are
   at the discretion of the committee."

As that can be read as giving both bodies some authority, it has to be determined which one is the authority. According to Section 1.2 of RFC 3710, the document does not claim to represent consensus of the IETF. BCP 10 has the consensus of the IETF. It can only be overruled by a RFC that represents the consensus of the IETF.

Quoting an extract of the report of the arbiter in a RFC 3777 dispute resolution process:

  "RFC 3777 is the result of an IETF consensus process.  RFC 3777
   is the fourth RFC in a series of RFCs that defined the IAB and IESG
   selection, confirmation, and recall process used in the IETF.  Each new
   version was developed in an open IETF working group and represented the
   consensus of that working group, the IETF through last call and the
   IESG.  Thus RFC 3777 should be considered as the governing document for
   these processes within the IETF.  Self published documents by one or
   another group within the IETF cannot be used to modify the consensuses
   developed using IETF processes and recorded in RFC 3777."

The positions taken by the IAB Chair and the IETF Chair on the "day pass" is a matter of public record. It is also clear where an appeal against this IESG Statement can be filed.

Eliot Lear mentioned [1] that:

  "I disagree with the IESG's statement, and I don't see even a
   rough consensus from my own view, but I do accept that they
   have the authority to make such a statement, if rough consensus
   could have been shown."

It is left to the reader of this message to see whether this statement can be rescinded by disputing the determination of rough consensus or through other means.

Regards,
-sm

1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg61711.html
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