On 9 jul 2010, at 08.06, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
On 08/07/2010 22:24, Fred Baker wrote:
On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
Boy, would they dispute that. ITU has claimed that the IETF is not an
open organization because a government cannot join it. Most membership
organizations, RIPE, being an example, have a definition of how someone
can become a member (members of RIPE are companies and pay a fee), and
are considered open to that class of membership.
Wait... There are two organizations: RIPE and RIPE NCC.
RIPE is an open group of people interested in IP based networks in Europe
and surrounding areas. There is no formal membership, work is done by
volunteers, anybody who is interested can join the mailing lists and
participate, anybody who pays the meeting fee can attend the meeting and
participate there. From an organizational point of view, it is pretty
similar to the IETF.
RIPE NCC is an organization established to do whatever ISP's and other
network providers have to organize as a group, even though they are
competitors, on a professional basis. It is a membership organization
open to everybody who meets the criteria (which is essential: run a
network). The RIPE NCC has an annual meeting, where the members decide
on what activities will be carried out in the next year. This meeting
is open to members only, which makes a lot of sense as the members also
write the checks to cover the costs.
And to answer the original question: yes, if you register for the RIPE
or RIPE NCC meetings, your name will appear on the public attendees list.
Thanks Henk. Let me just add that the policies and rules RIPE NCC follow are
developed in the open RIPE process.
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