On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Michael Dillon wrote:
Even if you are unwilling to accept these criticisms when CHOOSING venues,
I am not at all unwilling to accept the criticisms, I was responding
to the claim of a pattern. Maastricht clearly had problems, I think
that has been stated more than once. Dublin had its own set of
problems, but as you say below, there was a bus service to the center
of town and there were also a few nearby restaurants near the venue
and in the two hotels. I personally had no need to go to central
Dublin during that week for dinner.
what is wrong with applying some bandaids to fix these problems for those
venues where it is an issue. Even in Dublin and Maastricht there were
"restaurant" districts nearby for those with vehicles. If the hosts or the
IETF had operated a 15 min. shuttle service to the restaurant districts
from 12 noon to 12 midnight, that would likely have resolved most if
not all of the complaints about restaurants.
Indeed that would have been a great idea and did not happen because of
misinformation prior to the event.
There really needs to be more creative thinking applied to these problems
in addition with local knowledge. For instance in some venues it might
be better to make bus guides available to take a group on local transit
every 15 minutes rather than having shuttles.
Far better to identify all the people who have issues, and then collectively
brainstorm ways to mitigate the problem without changing the city and
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