On 3/23/2011 12:02 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
Yeah - sure you can... if you want to be totally about the original
design and practice of the IETF and its vision. It was built to advance
protocol standardization and not to decide what protocols it would allow
on the Internet and which it wouldn't. But lately many have forgotten
this and are using the IETF as a formal lobby for technological policy
advancement and that's a no-no.
On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:52 AM, SM wrote:
The IETF can only address the technical problems.
This is an argument I often hear. I do, however, believe that you cannot see
technology in isolation.
Bluntly the IETF members are becoming more and more aggressively
politically and this statement is based on IAB and other publication on
what the IETF does and does not allow through its frameworks. In doing
so their statements about allowing protocols or not allowing protocols
to be standardized based on their stated perception of "what damages the
Internet" or what they personally want to see as a "free access to all
information and ideas" model, creates a real serious divergence from the
Standards Practice this organization was set up as, and IMHO is one
which is designed clearly to destroy global Intellectual Property law
No Hannes - it doesn't unless the Chair allows it to - meaning that the
Chair in this instance has allowed political materials to be fielded
(filed in this instance) into the IETF and trust me I am already filing
a formal complaint with the Treasury about ISOC's becoming a formal PAC
and its locking out protocol efforts based on its own desires therein...
However, in many cases the technology, regulatory environment, business
aspects, and the social context gets mixed together.
I suggest that the Chair immediately post a formal statement that the
IETF is a-political and will not do anything but standardize
technology. Also that ONLY technology drafts can be accepted since the
IETF is part of ISOC and not registered as a political PAC or Lobbying
Agency which it clearly has become in direct violation of the NTIA MOU
which gave it (ISOC and its ARIN) the real power.
Please have a look at:
Hannes - this is the issue with the IETF and the gross number of flaming
idiots inside of it. The IETF is not a Social Reform Agency, nor is it a
freaking political action group since its financial filings prevent this.
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