On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:22:46PM -0700, Professional Software Engineering
Drop the crayons and back away from the computer.
So said the old man wobbling unsteadily on his keyboard. :-).
You need to use crayons where crayons are needed, and you shouldn't shy away
from them feeling that you are too old. Anyway, you call using xterm -fn 10x20
-bg black -fg gray72 as glitzy stuff? You need to learn to use to your xterm
more effectively. You can configure all the 16 colors of xterm with the
following configuration in your xresource file.
*highlight : red
The advantage of the above set of colors is that ALL of them have absolutely
the same intensity, and have the same as the gray73. So none of the colors will
ever hit your eye. I have, in effect, removed all the bold and intense colors
and replaced them with the lighter versions.
You can configure mutt this way.
color markers magenta black
color tree color3 black
color search green black
color signature red black
color quoted2 cyan black
color quoted1 color5 black
color bold color6 black
color underline color6 black
hi MailQuoted1 ctermfg=DarkCyan
hi MailQuoted2 ctermfg=none
hi MailQuoted3 ctermfg=11
hi MailQuoted4 ctermfg=12
hi mailHeaderKey ctermfg=DarkGreen
hi mailHeader ctermfg=DarkBlue
hi mailSubject ctermfg=Brown
hi Special ctermfg=13
The above is not for creating glitz, but rather helps tremendously in easily
identifying the required sections of the mail. After sometime your brain will
subconsciously do the identifying, and it will come very naturally.
sender. See. You have no idea of what the heck you are talking about.
I'll gladly sell you half a dozen clues, but you'll have to pay for them in
USD via PayPal in advance of delivery (I've been cheated way too many times
- some people take the clues and run). If you need more, you'll need to
find them elsewhere, since I like to keep a healthy number of clues in
reserve for some of the other clueless people I deal with.
You have a talent to be pedantic without being informative. Maybe in some
quarters it is something that can fetch money. But not with any place I know.
What if my screen is smaller than 75 chars. What if I am viewing the
mail in vim that is split in the middle? And it looks quite ugly in forums.
Inadequate systems should compensate for their own inadequacies, not
redefine how the rest of the internet should fuction so that they may be
included. The converse is reasonably true as well - just because some
"nifty" new thing like yellow or cyan on white text is available doesn't
mean it should be utilized, or that it is a good idea. Colour in email
communication leaves a lot to be desired, and I've yet to see *ANY* RFC's
defining what colours mean what.
- The important point you miss: The single line paragraph will work
everywhere. So why not just use something that will work in all circumstances,
rather than penalize poor people who don't have enough money to buy all those
The point I am trying to get across for so long is that: A Single line
paragraph will work in all situations. So instead of using something that will
help everyone, you are vehemently arguing for continuing with your barbaric
ways. Pardon me if I find it absurd. Anyway, your idea is to just ignore
everything that is happening around you, and do exactly the same thing
regardless. I don't think that is a good idea. You have to evolve. Just ask the
Perhaps you'd like to take up the torch for top posting too?
Look at all the different web forum implementations out there, no two using
quite the same way to present data. Is this really a BENEFIT to
users? Having to learn to navigate so many different wannabe standards in
order to communicate?
There are a lot of people using forums. I have no issues with forums as long
as they support lynx. And as for my own forums, I have integrated everything
tightly with mailman. I use fudforum, which has in-built mailing list
synchronizatin logic. So I get the best of both worlds. This is exactly the
problem with people. On one side we have utter newbies who don't care about
efficiency at all, and on the other end we have people hard set in their ways
ignoring any of the new technologies. I am trying to bridge a gap between the
two. I want to have the efficiency of the mailing system (For my own use), and
also want the ease of use and glitz that a forum provides. (For the other
Email has remained the effective communication tool that it is because it
is simple. Technical mailing lists have by and large chosen to remain
plain text because it doesn't clutter communications with someone's idea of
"style" and colour preferences.
I don't remember arguing for sending color emails. Just that you can configure
your mailer to show the paragraphs in different colors which will make it very
easy to distinguish your message from quoted text. It is there in all text
mailers - mutt/vim and even vm - the mailer for emacs.
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