At 07:08 2006-03-22 -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 3/22/06, Google Kreme <gkreme(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Aren't [Verizon] still blocking all non US IPs from sending email
(actually, I think it was all non-US and Canada IPs)
Mail from Japan and Australia regularly gets through to my verizon.net
mailboxes. I don't recall if I've gotten anything from EU recently
that wasn't routed through one of my other MXs.
I am _still_ acting as a smart relay for a site in norway which I admin for
- all their verizon/gte/etc traffic routes through one of my mailhosts so
that it can reach our subscribers at those domains.
IIRC, Verizon INSISTED in the media that they were doing no such thing, but
quite a few people reported differently. It's been going on for over a
The various admins on the site in question are pretty much fed up with
large ISPs arbitrarily refusing mail - it isn't as if their USERS are given
any clear indication of what is going on, and it is US that field the
inquiries about "why am I not receiving mail from your site?" (queries
which said ISPs have no qualms with sending to sites they won't accept the
replies from!). In the case of Verizon, they just infinitely defer the
messages - they don't bounce them outright.
Users really need to seek out better providers. AOL'ers have no excuse -
anyone who bothers to check will find that AOL has been lambasted over the
years for nonstandard stuff, and the inability to run standard mail clients
and the like. People with ISPs like verizon however, probably originally
signed up with an average ISP which subsequently adopted bonehead policies.
Ultimatley, they still need to vote with their feet.
Sean B. Straw / Professional Software Engineering
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