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Re: [spf-discuss] Re: Appeal Question

2006-02-07 16:46:21
On 07/02/06, John Hinton <webmaster(_at_)ew3d(_dot_)com> wrote:
Frank Ellermann wrote:

John Hinton wrote:



If we do appeal SendID and this does delay by six months SPF,
does it also delay by six months SID?



Iff there's any delay at all, and iff only one of the drafts is
delayed, then it would be senderid-core.



Will SPF still be in the queue ahead of SID?



Of course, senderid-core has a normative reference to v=spf1:

| 10.1 Normative References

|   [PRA]       J. Lyon, "Purported Responsible Address in E-Mail
|               Messages", draft-lyon-senderid-pra-01.  Work in progress.

|   [RFC2119]   S. Bradner, "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate
|               Requirement Levels", RFC 2119.

|   [SPF]       M. Wong and W. Schlitt, "Sender Policy Framework:
|               Authorizing Use of Domains in E-Mail", draft-
|               schlitt-spf-classic-00.  Work in progress.
[...]
                           Bye, Frank



OK, that makes sense.. but I must admit I know little about these
proceedings. ;)

I still vote NO on the appeal, simply because of the delay and the fact
the M$ has in the past implimented non-standards, at least in other
areas, and pretty much forced their (MS's) standards upon the world. I
fear that any delay simply plays to their hand. They've already started
by providing SID software on their mailserver systems... more time means
more mailsystems already running it.

It's a terrible quandry.. doing the 'right' thing is right, when dealing
with a righteous entity... but I would have to commit myself if I began
to feel like M$ corp. is a righteous entity.... at least for now. Bill
on the other hand, yeah, he's pretty darned righteous with aid to areas
of the world, but... that has nothing to do with business. Really, all
we need to do is look at how we wound up here. SPF/SenderID.. and what
was it that broke that deal?

But yet someone needs to put a nail in the foot of SID somehow....

John Hinton


First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out — because
I was not a communist;

Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I
was not a socialist;

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out —
because I was not a trade unionist;

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew;

Then they came for me — and there was no-one left to speak out for me.

                                                Martin Niemöller



Cheers,
Constantine.

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