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Re: objections, again

1997-08-04 13:47:48
Finally Chris admits some of his mistakes.

Chris, I invite you to write an INFORMATIONAL document explaining how
e-mail addresses are controlled in AMS.

If they choose to use this variety of subaddressing, then they'd have to
change those addresses or configure in a special MTA alias.

In contrast, qmail _automatically_ handles existing accounts that
contain the separator character.

Why are you trying to standardize an inferior mechanism?

RFC 2142 clearly requires that it be "widget-request".

Correct. Now, with your ``+'' as a separator, the widget account doesn't
control this ``widget-request'' address, unless the sysadmin sets up one
of your ``special MTA aliases.''

In contrast, with ``-'' as a separator, the widget account automatically
controls ``widget-request'', so the user's favorite MLM can use
``widget-request'' without special sysadmin support.

Why are you trying to standardize an inferior mechanism?

This is an interesting scenario.

Do you deny that an MLM ``upgraded'' to support your requirements will
cause this security mechanism to fail?

The address encoding used in SMTP is "a,b+c"@d.e for that address.

What are you saying? All MUAs have to use SMTP? I'm talking about local
UNIX MUAs that pass addresses to the submission agent on the command
line---there are more than thirty programs in this category. If they
follow your interface requirements, they produce incorrect results with
MMDF and qmail for all quoted addresses.

Linking the proposal to a single product when it is already in multiple
products is deceptive.

Not at all. Obviously one vendor can imitate another vendor's features.

What's deceptive is your list of supporting products:

   * CMU (AMS, Cyrus) and Innosoft (PMDF) have paid you.

   * sendmail's support is pathetic---it doesn't allow user-controlled
     configuration by default.

   * Pine's support doesn't exist; it was your unverified speculation.

---Dan
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