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Re: [Asrg] anti-spam updates for ISOC from the ASRG (fwd)

2011-11-14 04:02:08
I sent this initial response to Joel. Please cc him on any traffic here since he's not currently on the list.

R's,
John

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:59:02 +0800 (CST)
From: John R. Levine <johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com>
To: Joel M Snyder <Joel(_dot_)Snyder(_at_)Opus1(_dot_)COM>

We are looking for short statements and pointers to work in the following areas:

This stuff is all available (other than perhaps a useful list of anti-spam products, since there's a vast number, mostly lousy) but it's a considerable amount of work to pull it all together.

- current players (other than ISOC) in the policy-based anti-spam front. This would include governmental and NGO policy groups helping to craft policy, industry groups, etc. Anyone, in short, who is hoping to help write or influence legislation, regulation, or policy regarding spam.

Hmmm. The OECD has a fairly good anti-spam framework which is getting old but that they're starting to revise. I'd start with that.

- current anti-spam policies/legislation/regulation AND a statement of evaluation. (e.g,, pointer to CAN-SPAM and an admission that it doesn't seem to have done anything)

CAN SPAM hasn't been very useful, not so much because it's opt-out, but because the effort to bring suit is enormous. The FTC has whacked some spammers, there's been a handful of criminal and civil cases, but not a whole lot.

The EU's spam directive, which has been implemented to a greater or lesser degree in all the member countries, has been pretty effective against spam that's not wholly criminal. AU and NZ have pretty good laws, CA has a new one based on the earlier ones.

The majority of spam these days is utterly illegal just about everywhere, sent using stolen resources advertising fraudulent stuff. That doesn't so much need new laws as it needs better coordination among law enforcement in various countries, cooperation between network operators and LE as well as identifying and dealing with a relatively small numbers of networks that are run for or by crooks.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for 
Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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