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Re: replay attacks, was Re: revised Proposed Charter

2005-08-06 15:45:32

--- Tony Finch <dot(_at_)dotat(_dot_)at> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Andrew Newton wrote:

3) The first solution in 9.5 seems to be talking about a service
that does not
exist and lends itself to abuse, and the second seems to be fairly
heavy-weight and possibly not very effective (at least from their
limited
descriptions).  Perhaps those paragraphs should be struck and the
section
should be left with only a description of the attack.

The second (detecting bulk same-signature mail) effectively already
exists
in the form of Vernon Scryver's distributed checksum clearinghouse.

2 cool benefits of this:
1) Spammers have been inserting random content to play games with bulk
detector games for a few years.  These attacks don't exist when
replaying a message.
2) A signature has already been calcuated.  It should be technically
feasible to use the DKIM signature as a DCC/Vipul Razor checksum,
saving its re-caculation if desired.
miles

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