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Re: [draft-melnikov-sieve-external-lists] Proposed Changes To Section 2.3

2009-07-25 14:35:51

I don't strongly object to the change Robert suggests, below, but I
think it's useful to explain the situation, to explain why there might
be issues here.  I'd rather not eliminate the paragraph that gives
that explanation.  I'm happier, if we want to use Robert's text, to
leave at least some of the eliminated paragraph in as an informative
note.

Barry

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Robert Burrell
Donkin<robertburrelldonkin(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

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Changes
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Revise and consolidate existing paragraphs 3 and 4 into a shorter functional
description.

Rationale
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Paragraphs 3 and 4 in 2.3 specify complex, hard to test requirements for
little clear gain. Regarding the redirection as a black box makes the
specification
more concise and allows more space for novel approaches.

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[1] Proposed Text
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2.3.  :list tagged argument to the "redirect" action

  Usage:  redirect :list

  The "redirect" action with the ":list" argument is used to send the
  message to one or more email addresses stored in the externally
  stored list 'ext-list-name'.  This variant of the redirect command
  can be used to implement a personal distribution list.

  The Sieve engine and list server SHOULD collaborate to achieve a
  redirection consistent with the semantics described in [Sieve]. If
  they are unable to do so then the situation MUST result in a
  runtime error.

  See Section 2.4 for the detailed description of syntax used for
  naming externally stored lists.

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2.3.  :list tagged argument to the "redirect" action

  Usage:  redirect :list

  The "redirect" action with the ":list" argument is used to send the
  message to one or more email addresses stored in the externally
  stored list 'ext-list-name'.  This variant of the redirect command
  can be used to implement a personal distribution list.

  Use of this feature requires that the list resolve to a list of email
  addresses, and that the Sieve engine be able to enumerate those
  addresses. [[anchor5: Alexey would like the option of allowing the
  list handler to enumerate the addresses and do the redirect there.
  Barry thinks that's contrary to Sieve, which expects to queue the
  redirect action for processing at a later stage, and that it would be
  a bad idea to have the redirect happen in the list handler.  The WG
  needs to resolve this issue.]]  In cases where, for example, a list
  contains hashed email address values or an email address pattern
  ("sz*(_at_)example(_dot_)com", "*+ietf(_at_)example(_dot_)net"), it will 
not be possible to
  redirect to that list.

  If the Sieve engine [[anchor6: or list handler?]] is permanently
  unable to enumerate the list or the list does not resolve to email
  addresses, the situation MUST result in a runtime error in the Sieve
  script.

  See Section 2.4 for the detailed description of syntax used for
  naming externally stored lists.


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