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RE: Comparison of ICAP and SOAP

2001-07-10 10:17:02

SOAP intermediaries don't have to be explicitly targetted.  Anything along
the way could read and act on a soap message.  If you do use the soap actor
attribute, how you use it is very flexible.  You can ask the next node to
act on it.  You can use a uri that indicates a specific node or you can use
a URI that indicates some action you want and you don't care who does it.  

From http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-soap12-20010709/#_Toc478383602
"While the purpose of a SOAP actor name is to identify a SOAP node, there
are no routing or message exchange semantics associated with the SOAP actor
name. For example, SOAP Actors MAY be named with a URI useable to route SOAP
messages to an appropriate SOAP node. Conversely, it is also appropriate to
use SOAP actor roles with names that are related more indirectly to message
routing (e.g. "http://example.org/banking/anyAccountMgr";) or which are
unrelated to routing (e.g. a URI meant to identify "all cache management
software"; such a header might be used, for example, to carry an indication
to any concerned software that the containing SOAP message is idempotent,
and can safely be cached and replayed.)"

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:mnot(_at_)akamai(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:10 AM
To: Brian E Carpenter
Cc: Keith Moore; Tomlinson, Gary; Randy Bush; Lloyd Wood; John Martin;
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Comparison of ICAP and SOAP




SOAP intermediaries must be explicitly targetted by the message
(using the 'actor' attribute). In this respect, they are completely
unlike the OPES model.

Of course, other kinds of intermediaries (HTTP, etc.; they may even
be interposed with the SOAP intermediary) may make other decisions
about messages and what to do to them.


On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Web Services intermediaries will certainly exist and use 
SOAP; whether
they are exactly like the current OPES model is still 
unclear. Indeed
the security/integrity problems have to be solved, and this is more
fundamental than debating the ICAP hammer and the SOAP screwdriver.

  Brian

Keith Moore wrote:

 Several of us have long believed that with an OPES 
framework, multiple
existing remote procedure call protocols including iCAP 
and SOAP can
be added to an authenticated and authorized 
intermediate proxy model.

so by adding components that can alter data in transit, 
you're going
to increase the level of integrity?    right.

Keith


-- 
Mark Nottingham, Research Scientist
Akamai Technologies (San Mateo, CA USA)



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