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RE: draft-tomlinson-opes-model-00.txt

2001-07-31 14:48:20

On Friday, July 27, 2001 @7:55 AM Abbie Barbir wrote:
hi all, 

here is some extra remarks on the 
A Model for Open Pluggable Edge Services draft 
draft-tomlinson-opes-model-00.txt. 

please read between the text 

abbie barbir 
Nortelnetworks 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Penno, Reinaldo [SC9:T327:EXCH] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 10:41 PM 
To: 'Michael W. Condry'; 'ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org' 
Subject: RE: draft-tomlinson-opes-model-00.txt 

First IMO the draft it too biased on "Content Networks". OPES 
can provide "Content Services" to any network that provide 
content to the user. 

yes, i agree with reinaldo,  OPES exists independent of CDI 



Agreed. Please see 7/31/01 reply to Reinaldo.


HERE I MADE ADD, 

The concept of edge services as an overlay is ok, however, the 
way that is presented in the draft is too restrictive for the 
following reason(s)

- it assumes that each overlay is independent with a seperate 
authorative entity. 
------ here, we can extend the concept of an edge services overlay 
to broder range, there is no restriction for several access providers 
or ISPs to cooporate such that their edge services become an extended 
overlay (an overlay of overlays).


The intent was not to limit an overlay in this manner.  The "authoritative
domain" is a logical construct in which an Edge Service Network is
authorized
to act in behalf of the party it is representing (client or origin server).
It
may be the case that it is in its own administrative domain and has
delegated
authority to represent many clients or servers and thus can be a member of 
multiple authoritative domains concurrently.

- the overlays can also be combined, basically, a content overlay can 
be defined that provide content to one or more edge services overlays 
(or from above a virtual edge services overlay that is composed of 
various edge services overlays).


Agreed.

- the same can be said about client overlays. (here, an overlay can 
be defined that allow clients to roam across various edge services 
overlay(s)).

in fact, the edge services overlay model can be used as an alternative 
to the cdi peering model,  in this case, the content provider(s) can be 
though off as having their own overlay(s). the edge services as another 
overlay and the clients as an overlay. 

for an OPES intermeiary (surrogate) to act on behalf of a content source, 
it has to subscribe to the content overlay (similar analogy can be used 
about surrogates or caches).


I don't see the alternative to CDI here.  Edge Service Networks rely upon
content networks, they don't obviate them.  I see the parallelism with
CDI of multiple OPES networks working in behalf of a content sources.

we can discuss the analogy further if there is interest 

hope the above helps 


abbie 

Thanks for the comments

Gary

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