Michael,
You and I are in harmony on this. I'm sure that we all can agree that there are
a large number of other WGs which have relevant insight into elements of the
Midcom problem domain, which makes OPES far from unique, and therefore
inappropriate as a target for a special WG-to-WG relationship. Take, for
example, the many other groups addressing elements of policy including the
Policy WG, AAA WG, AFT WG, CDI WG, the IRTF's AAAA WG, and many, many others.
--Eric
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From: Michael W. Condry[SMTP:condry(_at_)intel(_dot_)com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:53 AM
To: Fleischman, Eric W; lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com;
midcom(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; 'Melinda Shore'
Cc: Ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [midcom] policy & duration
I agree about the dissimilar problem space.
However, I still stand by the position that IF there areas of problem overlap,
such as some policy matters, that ignoring each others requirements
is a beneficial strategy (or "Dating Relationship").
At 02:58 AM 8/8/2001, Fleischman, Eric W wrote:
I see OPES and midcom addressing very dissimilar problems. I do not view
the problems of enhancing web services (OPES) as directly related to the
problems of opening pinholes through perimeter devices in a manner
consistent with enterprise policies (midcom). I therefore do not think
that OPES has a role in providing feedback to midcom documents that is any
more relevant than the insights coming from other IETF WGs. Thus, even a
"dating relationship" is unnecessary.
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From: Melinda Shore[SMTP:mshore(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:24 AM
To: lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com; midcom(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Michael W.
Condry
Cc: Ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [midcom] policy & duration
From: "Michael W. Condry" <condry(_at_)intel(_dot_)com>
To: <lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>; <midcom(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Cc: <Ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: [midcom] policy & duration
Do you think that alignment between OPES policy and MidCom policy
concepts should be applied where appropriate? If so, should the
document
not reflect this?
I do think that there's value in trying to keep these aligned,
and it would probably be useful to get some feedback on our
documents from OPES. In the interests of keeping our work
moving forward, it would probably be best to regard midcom
and OPES as dating rather than married.
Melinda
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