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Re: Edge to edge discovery

2001-08-14 10:37:18
At 11:32 AM 8/13/2001, Jayanth Mysore wrote:
My understanding is that the OPES box is an application level intermediary, that terminates connections from/to the origin server and the client. Further there isn't anything that prevents multiple such boxes to be in the path between the origin server and the client.

If my understanding is correct, I believe it will be important for OPES boxes that are involved in a given session to discover each other and have an understanding of what each is doing to the content. This will be especially important in long running streaming media sessions where "end-to-end" feedback is used by a source to dynamically readjust its rate/the content's format etc. Consider the following scenario :

<- -C_OPES1.1-->             <-------C_OPES1.2----->
(origin server)---(opes1)-------(opes2)-----------(client)
<-----------C_OPES2.1------>     <--C_OPES2.2-->

opes1 : An  OPES intermediary in the origin server's authoritative domain
opes2: An OPES intermediary in the client's authoritative domain
C_OPES1.1 : An "end-to-end" connection between the origin server and opes1
C_OPES1.2: An "end-to-end" connection between opes1 and the client

Yes, sounds a lot like the existing operational model with reverse proxys and
proxys.... Consistent with  Erickson's I-D.


In this scenario,let's say opes1 measures the goodput of C_OPES1.2 and uses this estimate to transcode the stream. Likewise, opes2 modifies the stream based on the goodput estimate on C_OPES2.2. Each of the OPES boxes could independently transcode the stream resulting in unstable operation in the worst case and super-degradation of the content quality in the best case.

I am not sure  who would pay for such a service. Anyway, I hear a need for
something along the lines of performance expectations.....


Am I getting something wrong here ?

I do not see how this proposed WG can characterize what is a "good service". I
think we want to outline the rules and "failure modes" so that "bad services'
do not impact others ...


- Jayanth


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Jayanth P. Mysore
Networks and Infrastructure Research Laboratory,
Motorola Labs
Phone : (847) 576-8561

Michael W. Condry
Director,  Network Edge Technology
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