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Re: Draft on Callout Protocol Requirements

2001-11-22 19:21:35

     +----+   +----+
  C -| I1 |---| I2 |- OS
     +----+   +----+
                ||
              +====+
              | E1 |
              +====+

C = client, OS = origin server, I1 = some intermediary, E1 = some
external service accessed by a different protocol, I2 = a gateway
intermediary to E1.  C, S, and I1 don't care what E1's protocol is, and
that's why I don't think it's important to pick just one.  I2's job is
just to make E1 look like an intermediary.

So in terms of the end-to-end HTTP flow (assume no modifications for now) 
I1 and I2 are functionally equivalent: they're both HTTP proxies from what 
I can see.

HTTP intermediaries.  Not necessarily proxies.  Re your comment about
gateway below, yes, I didn't mean to use the term.  Though in the
example I had in my head, it was also a gateway.  In that diagram I
provided, there's insufficient information to determine whether the
intermediaries are gateways or proxies.

The only reason to add I2 as a "gateway"(*) is in order to support the 
custom protocol between I2 and E1.  If you're going to do that then you're 
right that there's no need to have a standardized OPES callout ... but it's 
kindof missing the point of standardizing an OPES callout protocol in the 
first place.  If there is a series of transformations that need to occur 
between OS and C (or vice versa) your model could requre as many additional 
I* entities as transformations.

It could, but need not.  There is room for optimization.

 Even scarier than the latency each 
application layer hop would add is the configuration of the I* entities in 
the correct order to accomplish a set of arbitary transformations 
potentially spread across multiple E* entities.

Enter the application router.  My company sells them.

[Also, if I2 is only necessary to speak with E1 then it might be better to 
just create a custom proxy on I2 to do the job itself]

I didn't mean to suggest that they were *necessarily* distributed about
the network.  It would definitely make sense to put E1 and I2 on the
same box.

MB
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