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Re: [ietf-smtp] mailing lists are complicated, was Email explained from first principles

2021-05-29 09:23:46
On Sat, 29 May 2021, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
ARC is a completely different thing. It introduces a third party, the sender, which modifies the message header in such a way to induce receivers to accept a message even if it fails DMARC. Semantically, it is very similar to Dave's Use of the Sender Header Field.

Ho, it is really nothing like that. It provides log info to so that the final recipient can retroactively do filtering that the intermediate hosts didn't. It is true that you do have to know which intermediate hosts might plausibly do that, but small systems rarely get ARC'ed mail from more than a handful of places.

I see no conflict between these two methods.

Just wondering, but has anyone implemented the mutant DKIM you are proposing? Is there a spec or an I-D?

Regards,
John Levine, johnl(_at_)taugh(_dot_)com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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