Re: [ietf-smtp] Validating MTA-STS setup, by writing to improperly confi

Could you simulate this by having your outbound not attempt STARTTLS (perhaps 
just to a specific host)? If your MTA code understands the difference between 
not-offered and not-attempted, that wouldn't work.  Just a thought.

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Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy
Comcast

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> Subject: [ietf-smtp] Validating MTA-STS setup, by writing to improperly
> configured MTA-STS sites
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> Hello,
>
> I want to validate, that outgoing MTA-STS does work correctly.  I want to
> send an email to a site, which has broken MTA-STS, and see what happens.
>
> Can somebody name a sample site, which (on purpose, for testing purposes,
> unintentionally for the moment) announces MTA-STS, but does not offer
> STARTTLS?
>
> I found only
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mtasts.xyz/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TTR4o6
> 1qatE9S6m9-9E3V266j07tny3GsF_Gb-Cme7r-
> bqM2EnnrsBWVuvBYC0D3pGbE_raAtg$  trying to perform outbound tests,
> but its MTA-STA setup is too broken - the certificates are outdated and the
> HTTP-policy is thus ignored.
>
> Greetings
>   Дилян
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