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RE: end-to-end w/i-Mode? (was Re: imode far superior to wap)

2000-08-10 16:50:02
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From: John Day [mailto:day(_at_)std(_dot_)com]

No. it's the world's biggest NAT, and NAT *breaks the end-to-end
model of IP*.

Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
and i-mode.  WAP does an application gateway and uses no Internet
protocols.  At least, i-mode is using IP, TCP, HTTP, etc.

John,

Who cares what protocol a device runs as long as it delivers the
application that satisfies its intended users? Most subscribers
couldn't care less if i-mode used CLNP and TP4 instead of IP and TCP.
i-mode is interesting because it uses a sub-set of html, which makes
life lot easier for web based application designers.

Accusing them of breaking it, then puts the vast majority of subnets
connected to the Internet into the same category.   What's your
point?  It hardly seems appropriate to put i-mode and WAP in the
same
category.

NAT *breaks the end-to-end model of IP*. The biggest problem with NAT
is that you can't deliver "push" applications from a server in the
global realm to devices in the NAT world without using weird proxy
mechanisms. If you do that, that is nothing but a different version of
"WAP".

Cheers,

--brijesh
Ennovate Networks INc.