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Subject: Re: [seamoby] BOF: IP over Bluetooth for 50th
Meeting of IETF.
Kulwinder,
There is an issue here with the closed, proprietary nature of
the Bluetooth
SIG. Since information on what the SIG is doing is not available until
it is complete, there is nothing to prevent the SIG from
doing something
that would invalidate the work that IETF puts into desiging a better
IP over Bluetooth.
Is there any possibility of gaining assurance from the SIG that they
won't do something like this?
jak
Myself and Ron Akers have requested an IP over Bluetooth BOF
for the 50th
Meeting of the IETF in Minneapolis. The BOF will discuss
the creation of a
IETF Working Group to investigate the most open and
efficient way to place
IP over the Bluetooth Host Controller.
Current work in this area within the Bluetooth SIG
concentrates on defining
IP over a set of other lower-layer stacks. Currently there
are two options
defined by the Bluetoth SIG:
Option 1: IP/PPP/RFCOM/L2CAP/Host Controller
Option 2: IP/PAN Profile/L2CAP/Host Controller
(where the PAN Profile is a Bluetooth SIG work in progress)
We are proposing that the IETF form a WG to define a more
efficient way of
running IP over Bluetooth. In particular, IP would run
over an IETF protocol over the Host Controller without
L2CAP. This option
may be adopted by the Bluetooth SIG at a later date as a
Profile. Since all
Bluetooth SIG Profiles are optional, a customer may choose
any combination
of Profiles in a final product. Further, since Bluetooth
Working Groups
have it in their mandate to adopt protocols from other
standards making
bodies such as the IETF, there exists a clear path for IETF
work to be
adopted by the Bluetooth SIG.
Whereas the last BOF was informational only and organized by
the Bluetooth
SIG itself, the objective of this BOF will be to foster
innovation, and
speed progress by placing IP related protocol development
wihin the IETF and
Bluetooth-specific protocol development
within the Bluetooth SIG, by developing an IP over
Bluetooth IETF Working
Group.
This effort will define its own way of running IP over Bluetooth, by
carefully selecting a set of Bluetooth protocols (freely
available from
published specifications at
http://www.bluetooth.com/developer/specification/specificatio
n.asp) on which
to build IP.
Please join myself, Kulwinder Atwal, and Ron Akers on the
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