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5:190 OCEAN.....Re: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board Director candidates

2002-08-10 05:00:13
Michael,

Rest assured that the Internet Architecture has been designed to route around 
**plutocrats**.
Many people, who have spent years in the communications business, are also sick 
and tired
of the behavior of a few people on planet earth, who make up what can be best 
described as
the "Teleban". It would be easy to name 100 of them, and one would quickly see 
that of those
100, there would be about 64 groupies and 32 hard-core members. Of those 32 
"core"
members, there would be 8 insiders and 24 around the edges. Most of these 
people one never
sees. They are on the phones, meeting in person, sending letters, and sleeping 
with all the right
people in all the right places. It is ironic that they do not even really use 
the Internet. They seek
only to control it, as they seek to control all aspects of society. They seem 
to aspire to have their
names placed in the history books alongside other people who have spent their 
lives working to
deny people the right to freely communicate. Freedom-loving people know who 
these people
are and they will never allow the world to forget who they are and what their 
motives are. They
will be put in the "cages of cyberspace" and shipped off to an island in the 
middle of .OCEAN.

Meanwhile....there are new TLDs coming .ONLINE...
http://www.icann.org/comments-mail/icann-current/msg00342.html
10514 INC
9264 ONLINE
7288 NET
6472 USA
4481 GROUP
4101 WEB
====

For .ONLINE names see...
http://www.name-space.com
http://www.adns.net/NEWS/2002070101.html
.ONLINE will provide one of the first opportunities for people to start 
"portals" or virtual ISPs
which assume that a user/family or small business has an always-on, 24x7, IPv4 
connection with
at least one 32-bit site-id (dynamic or static). With that to route across the 
global public non-TOS
Internet, when required, people can begin to build the Next Generation Internet 
around the edges
of what has become the black-hole created by the I* society....it seeks overall 
control...

Jim Fleming
2002:[IPv4]:000X:03DB
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
5:190     OCEAN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael(_at_)palage(_dot_)com>
To: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade(_at_)att(_dot_)com>; "Elisabeth Porteneuve" 
<Elisabeth(_dot_)Porteneuve(_at_)cetp(_dot_)ipsl(_dot_)fr>; 
<fausett(_at_)lextext(_dot_)com>;
<ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board Director 
candidates


I will await your response. However, I am tired of politics and one of the
reasons that I have been supportive of ICANN reform from its inception. Now
there are other constituencies that can claim to have been supportive of
reform, but there were so many damn qualification/conditions in connection
with their support that it was effectively meaningless.

I support ICANN reform because the politics and horse trading of ICANN 1.0
make me sick to the stomach. While a select few people wear out their
welcome on the Hill and the Department of Commerce, there are small to
medium size businesses struggling to make a living. They do not have the
luxury to send an army of lobbyists to DC to manipulate the truth on a daily
basis.

Mike






-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org [mailto:owner-ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org]On 
Behalf Of
Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:07 PM
To: Michael D. Palage; Elisabeth Porteneuve; fausett(_at_)lextext(_dot_)com;
ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board
Director candidates


Michael, I think you have misinterpreted my suggestions, which were about
procedures, not really about principles.  Principles are very different. :-)

.....the rest of your message simply escapes me, probably because I tied up
on other
key activities ...
BUT, I promise, I will try to play catch up on politics this week end...


Regards, Marilyn Cade
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael D. Palage [mailto:michael(_at_)palage(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:53 PM
To: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA; Elisabeth Porteneuve; 
fausett(_at_)lextext(_dot_)com;
ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board
Director candidates


Marilyn:

I agree in part with the principles that you have discussed, however, it is
the outcome in which I respectfully disagree. I believe that when the Names
Council extended Philip's term as Chair, despite an understood rule that a
Chair serve no more than two consecutive 6 month terms, you were one of the
individuals that argued about the need for continuity during this critical
juncture of the Names Council.

Following this same line of logic which you previously advocated to extend
Philip's term, then Alejandro is really the only qualified candidate to
serve on the ICANN Board based upon the critical role which he has served
chairing the ICANN Evolution and Reform Committee. Aside from his excellent
qualifications, the reasons I nominated him for a second term, regardless of
how short it may be, was because he is the most uniquely qualified
individual to serve in that capacity.

I would respectfully submit that you should ask Grant, your fellow Business
Constituency Names Council Representative, NOT to accept his nomination, and
support Alejandro's reelection/extension based on the same exact reasons
that Philip was granted an extension as Chair of the Names Council.

Just my two cents.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org [mailto:owner-ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org]On 
Behalf Of
Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:01 PM
To: Elisabeth Porteneuve; fausett(_at_)lextext(_dot_)com; 
ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board
Director candidates



I support Elisabeth's views on this. ERC will make recommendations; the
community will comment; the Board will make decisions... BUT, that doesn't
mean that "flash cut"...  or "flag day" happens. :-)

One would expect transitions, and in the implementation of the version of
the
Blueprint, would come the need to institutionalize the changes... for
instance,the
reestantiation of the policy council for the gTLD SO; likewise for hte ccTLD
SO.

So, we should proceed. The worse thing that happens is that we need to make
sure board candidates understand the situation and are committed to the
outcomes that they could find themselves with a short term, or no term...

THAT doesn't mean that we don't take this seriously. I certainly do.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elisabeth Porteneuve 
[mailto:Elisabeth(_dot_)Porteneuve(_at_)cetp(_dot_)ipsl(_dot_)fr]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:10 PM
To: fausett(_at_)lextext(_dot_)com; ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board
Director candidates




Bret,

Today Bylaws set up obligations on each SOs, one of them is to proceed
on time and to elect ICANN Board directors.

Until we receive the clear implementation schedule and timeline
for ICANN 2 (whatever it is, as amended in Bucharest, work in progress,
letters to DoC in progress, see your own blog), we have to follow rules.
Otherwise it is anarchy.

Elisabeth Porteneuve

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From owner-ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org Fri Aug  9 18:56 MET 2002
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:55:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [ga] Nomination Procedure for nominating ICANN Board Director
candidates
From: Bret Fausett <fausett(_at_)lextext(_dot_)com>
To: DNSO Secretariat <DNSO(_dot_)secretariat(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org>, 
<ga(_at_)dnso(_dot_)org>
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Can someone clarify what we're doing here? I'm a bit confused. By the time
the new Director elected pursuant to the just announced process would be
seated, the Reform process will have been completed. I'm assuming that the
Blueprint, or something very close to it, will be in place at that point,
which would give the GNSO only two Board seats.

In the likely event the Blueprint passes, the GNSO then will need to hold
*new* elections for its two Board seats. Existing DNSO Board
representatives
might be reelected, but I wouldn't favor allowing them to retain their
seats
without standing for election, as that wouldn't account for the GNSO's new

status (which will have a new make-up to the constituencies) or its new
priorities.

Is there a way to compress this process so we don't waste time and effort
by
holding redundant elections?

        -- Bret

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