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RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and exte nsions

2005-01-05 05:55:10
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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On 
Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:55 PM
To: aphillips(_at_)webmethods(_dot_)com; John C Klensin; Christian Huitema
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf-languages(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no
Subject: RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, 
specifications, and extensions

[snip]

I am sorry. The IESG does not decide about the document, but 
about the 
existence of a consensus. We tried to get one. But you decided not to 
respond. So, there is *no* consensus. There are even *strong* 
political 
(Governmental) oppositions. I document this below.

Every IESG member is obligated to review documents when they are brought to
the IESG for evaluation.  The last call process helps us determine if there
is consensus and if the document should be brought to the IESG for review,
but we do indeed "decide about the document" if/when it's brought to us for
evaluation.  The shepherding area director will take community comment into
consideration when deciding what to do next once the last call concludes.

[snip]

Let understand the (several) Governments and specialized 
organizations 
concerns. I reported (please correct me if I was wrong) them:

1. the Internet standard process permits IAB Chartered IETF 
WGs to propose 
Drafts to the review of the IESG which examines them, may 
call on experts 
and has a Last Call before endorsing them as RFCs. It also 
permits groups 
of individual to propose private Draft to the IESG.

The IAB does not charter IETF working groups.  The IESG is responsible for
working group management.  The IAB is responsible for reviewing the charter
of proposed working groups as part of the approval process.  See section 2.3
of RFC 2418.

-Scott-

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