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RE: Resolution? #787 terminology - in particular "ISOC Standards Pillar"

2005-01-25 19:31:01
So... not 100% sure I captured the result ciorrectly.
This is what we have in rev 04:

            <section title="Divisional Accounting" 
anchor="divisional-accounting">
                <t>
                    Funds managed by IASA shall be accounted for in a
                    separate set of accounts.
                    Separate financial reports, including a balance
                    sheet and a profit and loss statement for IASA alone,
                    shall be produced as directed by IAOC.
                </t>
                <t>
                    IAOC and ISOC shall agree upon and publish procedures
                    for reporting and auditing of these accounts.
                </t>
            </section>

This is what I have in my edit buffer for revision 05

            <section title="Cost Center Accounting" anchor="cc-accounting">
                <t>
                    As discussed with ISOC, funds managed by IASA shall
                    be accounted for in a separate set of accounts
                    within the Cost Center IASA.
                    A periodic summary of the IASA accounts shall be reported
                    in the form of standard financial statements that reflect
                    the income, expenses, assets, and liabilities of the IASA
                    cost center.
                </t>
                <t>
                    IAOC and ISOC shall agree upon and publish procedures
                    for reporting and auditing of these accounts.
                </t>
                <t>
                    Note that the ISOC in consultation with IAOC can 
                    determine to structure the IASA accounting 
                    differently in the future within the constraints
                    outlined in <xref target="isoc-responsibilities"/>.
                </t>
            </section>

Is that acceptable to everyone?

I have left the change to "General Ledger Accounts" out for the
time being, because I am not sure we have consensus on that yet
(even though ISOC prefers that terminology).

Bert

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of
Margaret Wasserman
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 01:47
To: Lynn St.Amour; Carl Malamud; Tom Petch
Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; Lynn DuVal; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Resolution? #787 terminology - in particular "ISOC
Standards Pillar"



Lynn's suggested text is fine with me.

Margaret

At 4:53 PM -0500 1/25/05, Lynn St.Amour wrote:
Margaret,

I agree with your point below but I do feel it is helpful to state 
what ISOC's intended implementation is: a Cost Center within ISOC. 
This should not override the section (principle) you quote below. 
Perhaps we can add language at the beginning of this section to 
clarify all this (or move the paragraph you quote from section 7 to 
this section).  We might also add some of the other language 
proposed (see immed. below) so that the overall intent is clear 
rather than focusing on the less important detail.

"...periodic summary of the IASA accounts in the form of standard 
financial statements that reflect the income, expenses, assets, and 
liabilities of that cost center."

Regards,

Lynn


At 9:20 AM -0500 1/21/05, Margaret Wasserman wrote:

<snip>

There is a section of the BCP that says:

    Within the constraints outlined above, all other 
details of how to
    structure this activity within ISOC (whether as a cost 
center, a
    department, or a formal subsidiary) shall be 
determined by ISOC in
    consultation with the IAOC.

It seems inconsistent with this section to mandate elsewhere that 
the IASA will be organized as a cost center, that we will use "cost 
center accounting", that the financial reports will include a P&L 
for the cost center, that we will publish the general ledger 
accounts, etc.  These are details that, IMO, the IAOC and ISOC 
should work out (and change as needed to meet the needs of IASA and 
the IETF community) between themselves.

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