On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:57:47 -0800, Fred Baker wrote:
Yes. Kudos to both of them.
Another datapoint, from Yesterday's Spam-L:
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:11:45 +0000
From: Steve Linford <linford(_at_)SPAMHAUS(_dot_)ORG>
Subject: Re: MEDIA, LEGAL: (Send-safe) - Spammers outwit blacklist strategy
On 15 Feb 2005, at 17:10, /dev/rob0 wrote:
It looks criminal to me.
And yet ... send-safe.com is still online ... paypal.com is accepting
payments for them ... nothing is done. (No, I'm not surprised.)
Sure, the send-safe bastard is safe in Russia, but both MCI and Paypal
are operating in the USA.
MCI, right up to Vint Cerf, are insisting that Send Safe is just
ordinary software with no illegal features, and that it "could" be used
for spamming only in the way a crowbar could be used for breaking and
entering, or an innocent tobacco pipe could used for smoking dope. Our
reply to these analogies is that if you sell pipes specifically
designed for use with marijuana, with features only for marijuana use,
and the pipe is designed to contact the pusher and download the
marijuana into it's bowl, and designed to hijack innocent people
(proxies) to pass the marijuana smoke through before inhaling to
implicate them, while anonymising the smoker from the police by
rotating the smoker's name, and even comes packaged with lists of
innocent people pre-infected to be used for this purpose, you can bet
you're going to jail.
I reminded Vint Cerf of his "spam is bad for the net" quote displayed
on the CAUCE site, and asked for his help in getting the MCI spamware
issue solved. He said he'd look into it, but got back to me saying the
1st Amendment made MCI not terminate spamware vendors no matter how
illegal... so I gave him a link to the LINX BCP document and quoted the
LINX text to him, he replied that the LINX BCP document was "probably
illegal" in the USA (and hence MCI was ignoring it). Basically, MCI is
trying every excuse under the sun to keep Send Safe and the many spam
gangs they're servicing.
MCI says Send Safe is not the MCI customer, their customer 'MTI' is an
"ISP" who is in turn reselling to Send Safe and it's therefore out of
their control. They know perfectly well (and are lying to the press
that they don't) that ROKSO-listed MTI is Rusty Campbell's
(DesktopServer) spamware outfit, not an ISP by any stretch of
imagination, and that ISPs don't normally have only 6 IPs, and that the
Send Safe website is directly on the end of the MCI line, one IP away
from Rusty's router.
John St. Clair and the rest of the 'abuse' droids at MCI have known
perfectly well for over a year that MTI's sole business is spamming and
that the sole things hosted on Rusty Campbell's web server at
65.210.168.34 are 25 web sites, which are:
1 0-BULKEMAIL.COM.
2 ADOGWITHOUTWARNING.COM.
3 AMAZING-BULK-EMAIL.COM.
4 AMAZINGBULKEMAIL.COM.
5 BULK-EMAIL-WORLDWIDE.COM.
6 BULKEMAILREVIEW.COM.
7 BULKEMAILREVIEWS.COM.
8 DESKTOP-SERVER.COM.
9 DESKTOPSERVER.BIZ.
10 DESKTOPSERVER.COM.
11 DESKTOPSERVERPRO.COM.
12 DESKTOPSERVERSALES.COM.
13 DESKTOPSERVERSHOP.COM.
14 EASYBIZ.COM.
15 EMAILBROADCASTER.COM.
16 EMAILEMAILEMAIL.COM.
17 EMAILTOOLS.COM.
18 MONEYFUN.COM.
19 MTICD.COM.
20 MTIDEALER.COM.
21 MTIHELP.COM.
22 MTILAB.NET.
23 MTISOFTWARE.COM.
24 SEND-SAFE.COM.
25 THEINTERNETBIZ.COM.
MCI says these are all normal customers of the "ISP" Rusty Campbell who
just happens to be the author of DesktopServer and to MCI it's all good
paying business and nobody's going to stop them, least of all those
darn anti-spammers.
Amazingly, in 2003 we had kicked Send-safe.com off 4 Chinese
"bullet-proof hosts" before they found safe haven at MCI in the US. MCI
makes even the worst Chinese network look clean.
Steve Linford
The Spamhaus Project
http://www.spamhaus.org
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