Jeroen Massar wrote:
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 07:28 -0700, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
bmanning(_at_)vacation(_dot_)karoshi(_dot_)com wrote:
not being the RFC editor, the IAB (or member thereof), or even the
(as yet undefinable) IETF, I am not sure I am qualified to render
a value judgement here. That said, I am in posession of two bound
volumes of the collected RFC series as of the date of publication of
said volumes (modulo delays from the time the collection(s) were assembled
and the time they were published). One is circa 1995 and the other is
circa 1997 ... and I know of at least one CD containing the RFC archives
that has been sold.
The rules by which the IAB/IESG manage the IETF process have changed
dramatically in the past four years... so what was once possible/encouraged
seems now to be treated as suspect or illegal beahviour. Who knows
if the ISOC/IAB/IESG folks are attempting to claim copywrite on old RFCs (which
used to claim "Distribution Unlimited")...
I think it's much more a question of "we won't pay your lawyer's bills
if someone sues you over this" than a desire to exert any form of control.
I think all the IAB, IESG, IETF trust etcetera WISH for all RFCs to be
freely copyable in their entirety.
The 'entirety' is the key word here, as the cd's and prints Bill mention
contain the unmodified complete RFC's. That is, the versions I read
where contained complete unmodified RFC's and I expect them to be that
way too.
I have to note that I have a good number of books, specifically IPv6
ones, which contain excerpts of varous RFC's, even the newest ones.
In the IPR WG meeting in Dallas, the WG seemed to indicate that it
*wants* the right to use unmodified quotes/excerpts (any length) to be
available to all too - I still have to make the call on the mailing list
before declaring that the IPR WG has consensus on this point.
But that finding of consensus is relatively new - and it still doesn't
change the *legal* status of preexisting RFCs.....
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