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Re: IETF Eurasia

2007-12-06 16:33:50

Since our main source of income is meeting fees, I wonder why you think that financial issues would motivate us to hold fewer meetings...

Margaret

On Dec 6, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:

Well one reason is that it has never happened that way and this institution finds it nearly impossible to change even the most minor aspects of its organization.

If one dare point out that OASIS and W3C have both adopted a format in which they hold one annual plenary session and Working Groups typically hold two or three additional one or two day meetings a year one can anticipate the result: lengthy condescending lectures on IETF exceptionalism from elder members of the community who consider it their role to bully any impudent pup for the temerity of suggesting that change might be good.

We may however find that finances force a change in approach to be considered, particularly if the current weakness in the dollar continues.

I think that the absolute minimum number of times that we need to meet en-masse and maintain cohesion as an institution is once a year. And to do that we would have to change our approach to doing work in ways that many people would find unacceptable.



From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian(_at_)olddog(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk]
Sent: Thu 29/11/2007 6:32 AM
To: michael(_dot_)dillon(_at_)bt(_dot_)com; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: IETF Eurasia

>> Maybe I should elaborate. In several WG where I am active at
>> least half of participants are from Europe or Asia.
>
> Why do IETF meetings have to be monolithic and all-inclusive?

Because there is already a lack of communicaiton between Areas.

Not to say that there can't be other smaller meetings as well.

Adrian
(IETF hotels are too expensive. Book into smaller ones, pay less, and don't
get thrown out.)



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