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RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format (Trust Anchor Format) to Proposed Standard

2009-07-16 16:10:30
TAF works with existing systems that use certificates as trust anchors
(a certificate is a TrustAnchorChoice object), offers a minor change to
that practice to allow relying parties to associate constraints with
certificates using syntax that is widely available (TBSCertificate) and
offers a minimal representation of trust anchor information for folks
who require such (TrustAnchorInfo).  I don't see an interoperability
issue with TAF.  Applications will use the appropriate format that meets
its needs.  Certificates are not suitable as trust anchors in all cases.
TAF is a relatively minimal, natural solution to this problem.    


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Santesson [mailto:stefan(_at_)aaa-sec(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:42 PM
To: Carl Wallace; Pope, Nick; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; 
ietf-pkix(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format (Trust Anchor
Format)
to Proposed Standard

Carl,

I think the critique of the TSL work is well founded from the
perspective of
TAM, but there is nevertheless an important point here.

While TSL might not be an ideal standard for automated trust anchor
management, very much caused by its mixed scope of fields for both
human and
machine consumption, it has despite this become a central component
for
efforts in Europe, supported by the EU commission, to provide a common
framework for trust in CAs in Europe.

There is a substantial risk that we will see two very different
approaches
that at least overlap in scope, which may harm interoperability.

/Stefan



On 09-07-10 1:50 PM, "Carl Wallace" <CWallace(_at_)cygnacom(_dot_)com> wrote:

This document has been discussed previously relative to TAF.  A
portion
of that discussion is here:
http://www.imc.org/ietf-pkix/mail-archive/msg05573.html.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-pkix(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org [mailto:owner-ietf-
pkix(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Pope, Nick
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 4:02 AM
To: 'ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org'; ietf-pkix(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format (Trust Anchor
Format)
to Proposed Standard


Perhaps the authors should be aware of the existing European
Technical
Specification for trust status lists (TS 102 231), which have some
overlap
in function with the Trust anchor list in this internet draft.

This is being adopted by all EU member states as a means of
publishing
information on CA recognised as trustworthy under the national
accreditation
or supervisory schemes.

To obtain a copy go to:

http://pda.etsi.org/pda/queryform.asp

and enter TS 102 231 in the search box.

Nick Pope
Thales e-Security Ltd



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-pkix(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org [mailto:owner-ietf-
pkix(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org]
On Behalf Of The IESG
Sent: 10 July 2009 01:14
To: IETF-Announce
Cc: ietf-pkix(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Last Call: draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format (Trust Anchor
Format)
to
Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Public-Key Infrastructure
(X.509) WG (pkix) to consider the following document:

- 'Trust Anchor Format '
   <draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format-03.txt> as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments
to
the
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org mailing lists by 2009-07-23. Exceptionally,
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The file can be obtained via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format-
03.txt


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