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Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (Keying MaterialExporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Proposed Standard

2009-07-23 13:48:10
Nikos and all,

  I concur.

Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote:

Dean Anderson wrote:
I think you misunderstand how patents work or what the license says.

The licence is available for the case "when used with either ...". It is
not the case that a patent only applies to specific RFCs.  RFC's aren't
mentioned in patents. Patent claims covering tls-extractor very likely*
apply to any use of extractor, not just those uses that also use other
Certicom technology in other RFCs.  I think you are assuming that
because Certicom offers a license for a certain situation (or maybe 'use
configuration' is a better phrase), that different use configurations
then won't need a license, but that isn't usually* the case. Those other
'use configurations' that infringe a claim still require a license.

After this clarification I would object draft-ietf-tls-extractor to be
published as proposed standard.

regards,
Nikos
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