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RE: Last Call: draft-harkins-emu-eap-pwd (EAP Authentication UsingOnly A Password) to Proposed Standard

2009-07-25 05:56:29
In the past EAP method authors could publish their EAP methods as
Informational or Experimental RFCs. For Standards Track EAP methods we
had to go through the EMU working group. 
 
This is what we did, for example, with the pre-shared key EAP method:
* EAP-PSK http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4764.txt was published as an
Experimental RFC. 
* EAP-PAX http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4746 was published as an
Informational RFC. 
* EAP-GPSK http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5433 was an effort done in the
EMU working group with input from various pre-shared EAP method
proposals, including EAP-PSK and EAP-PAX. 
 
Hence, I agree with Bernard and I am a bit puzzled why
draft-harkins-emu-eap-pwd was planned for Proposed Standard.
 
Ciao
Hannes


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        From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of ext Bernard Aboba
        Sent: 23 July, 2009 03:37
        To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
        Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-harkins-emu-eap-pwd (EAP
Authentication UsingOnly A Password) to Proposed Standard
        
        
        I would like to comment on the process aspect of this IETF last
call.  A subsequent post will provide comments on the protocol. 
         
        Overall, I believe that the appropriate process for handling
this document is not to bring it to IETF last call as an individual
submission, but rather to charter a work item within an IETF WG.  
         
        There are two current EAP method drafts that are based on
zero-knowledge algorithms:
        1. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-harkins-emu-eap-pwd (this
document)
        2. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-emu-eap-eke
         
        Previously there was also an EAP method submission utilizing
SRP:
        3. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pppext-eap-srp-03
         
        All three of these documents were slated for inclusion on the
IETF standards track. 
         
        Given the number of EAP method RFCs that have already been
published, I do not believe that it serves the Internet community for
the IETF to publish multiple EAP method specifications of a similar
genre on the Standards Track, while bypassing the WG process.  
         
        If the standardization of zero-knowledge algorithms is an
important area of work for the IETF (and I believe this to be true),
then work in this area should be chartered as a working group work item,
with the goal to select a single method for standardization.  Prior to
the EMU WG re-charter, Dan Harkins made an argument for chartering of
work in this area.  His arguments were sound then, and they are (even
more) sound today.  However, Dan did not succeed in getting the work
added to the EMU WG charter.  It is time for the IESG to re-consider its
decision to delay standardization of zero knowledge algorithms, which
was made in the earlier part of the decade.  If the EMU WG is not
suitable for handling this work, then another security area WG should be
created for the purpose.  
         
         
         
         
         
        

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