Just be sure they are labeled "Reprint".
Donald
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On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:40 AM, James M. Polk<jmpolk(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
wrote:
This is a cool design, I agree.
With that said, I think a discussion needs to occur on the devaluation of
the importance of what the shirt means - were it to be distributed to
any/many folks that did not attend an IETF.
There have been several other cool designs from IETFs past, most notably is
the one that the IETF refused to have a shirt for (i.e., IETF47 in
Adelaide). I think that's still (for those who attended) the most popular
IETF shirt. I'll give Juniper credit (dare I? ;-) that this is a very
popular design.
So, this is a choice between "how can the IETF get money?" vs. the purity
that those that have an IETF shirt actually went to that particular IETF
meeting.
I realize this "purity" isn't really purity, given that I'm a rather large
man, and sometimes they don't have my size, so I get a size that fits my
wife or daughter. But the idea that there is one per paid attendee remains.
I fear that advertising ("Joe's Bar/Grill & ISP") will become the next step
to gain revenue goals if we go down this path, but I might be being too
pessimistic...
James
BTW - I hate for this whole idea to devolve into this scenario -- the event
sponsor will sell the design of the shirt to the IETF, who might believe
they can earn more that it cost (sponsor fee plus COGS) in sales.
At 02:49 AM 7/31/2009, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote:
I have been asked about this several times this week, so I'd like to
clarify here for all.
Juniper has donated the art for the highly popular IETF74 San Francisco
T-shirt (brown, IPv6 World Tour, "concert" concept) to the IETF Trust. This
was done because a) many people wanted to buy more of these shirts, b) the
IETF expressed an interest in fulfilling those requests.
We hope this art can be leveraged to spread the message about IPv6
transition broadly across the Internet community, in a fun and cool way .
The ball is now in Ray (and team's) court.
Hope it helps, and enjoy,
the Juniper host team from IETF74
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